Our Revised Policy on Shared Solutions, 02/16/2018


We, very often, receive messages from other searchers suggesting that, for a variety of reasons, they wish to share their solutions (solves) to finding the treasure that Forrest Fenn hid – with us.

Up to this time, we’ve asked them NOT to share them with us, as we are actively searching for the treasure, and it could compromise our solution. We have also responded by saying that, if they ignored us, and sent the solution to us anyway, it became our property.

As of this post, we are changing the policy: if a searcher sends their solution (solve) to us, for any reason, we will publish that solution, including the searcher’s name and or email address, on this blog.

Our position on the matter is this: if there is a desire to have the solution shared, share it with everyone.

 

Announcement: Live Stream Q&A, 10am MST, Saturday, 2/16

First Grade (Ch 2) – Forrest Fenn’s The Thrill of the Chase – Live Stream with Q&A

Ep 003 Forrest Fenn Memoirs Book Club. Join Shelley Carney and Toby Younis on the Forrest Fenn Memoirs Book Club, and drink some fine wine, as we discuss “First Grade” the second chapter in Forrest Fenn’s first memoir, “The Thrill of the Chase.” Live stream followed by Q&A.



Chat Room

Joel Lewicki?Good afternoon, here’s to raising a glass? and learning something! :)??

Man In The Barn?Good? Afternoon All\

James Kruse?Good afternoon?

Jimmy Fast?Hi? everybody

Joey Pero?Hey? y’all!

David Charles Davio22?outstanding..?

Paul McGinty?Good afternoon?

Joel Lewicki?AGK: corkage? is totally made up

Man In The Barn?AGK – 1st Question… Why is is titled First Grade when only the first line is about? the 1st grade? Hmmmmm..

Seannm Seannm?Afternoon? all

Joel Lewicki?AGK:? Audio is good –

Joey Pero?ATK returns? ! Toby- that UPS should arrive tomorrow.

James Kruse?A? tipsy bliss:)

B Cross?Ready.? Set..Go!

Eric Schmidt?AGK: Last night was? fun!

Jimmy Fast?Yup?

B Cross?Lookin good? and soudin better!

Journeyman?Hey everybody!!!!! 70 in? Missouri today

Cindy Guess?Sound is? good!

Joey Pero?Nice ! 57? here in NYC. Not bad.

Michael Elder?[message retracted]

David Charles Davio22?THe TIME stamp is not? True.

Laurie James?his fascination with olive jars continues? …

Mary Green??? housekeeping?

Kira?illegitimate is? also the irony Fenn said john charles mother called him

Joey Pero?Ohh scandalous? !

Laurie James?Fremont Pass above Leadville,? CO

Ben Parisi?Hi all?

Kira?Theres Fremont everything in the? Rockies

Joey Pero?We can? all relate!

Paul Wood????

Laurie James?I think he had low self esteem because of Skippy being such a large? being … a lot to live up to.

David Charles Davio22?TIME Stamp…THE correct date Wednesday 16 sept. 1936 . page 16… Very? INTERESTING.

Mary Green?agk ff picked on bc dad was the principal?

Journeyman?AGK I don’t see Fenn doing that (the sign) even at that age. It seems the only? one opinions he cared about was family.

Phillip Jennings?AGK: I’m here late, if? this chapter covers the class photo did you ever notice there is an extra name?

jaswinters?yes i think? he mention it in an interview with his hair

Laurie James?think buckets came from miners carrying? their food into mines …

Kira?no name cigarettes are also known? as marijuana.

Seannm Seannm?Or just cheap? aka no names.

Man In The Barn?AGK… He speaks more then just the olive Jar. Ge speaks about? how the olives are placed in it. I am confident it is a reference to a Gabion you will see at the location.

Mary Green?agk no? name cigarettes prince albert in the can

David Charles Davio22?Yes it? Does. I have most the book memorized.

Journeyman?Roll your own ciggs. were cheap and no? branding, very popular back then

David Charles Davio22?There IS a? Keyword!

Kira?420 is good for? chemo. rabbit hole to tie back to cancer.

Jimmy Fast?@david? Charles what is it?

Laurie James?Thank You? Shelley! The brains.

David Charles Davio22?HINT.Just? heavy loads= depression..Water high= current..SO Depression-era currency. RESEARCH.THE 1933 Double eagle coin. THEE MOST collected coin in the world ! THATS the BOMB.

Mary Green?agk cool a? book of the analysis

James Kruse?Great? info, thanks guys

David Charles Davio22?Olive green.? IS the military

Eric Schmidt?Jolly? Green Giant rescued him..

Paul Wood????????????

David Charles Davio22?Jimmy . I’ll let? you if you get it write.

Jimmy Fast????

Phillip Jennings?AGK: Shelley, Forrest mentions that he has the mind of a 13yr old, or that a 13yr old mind? is the one he kept. Are you using this to look for hints in the book, how?

David Charles Davio22?Community?

Joey Pero?The? Best!

David Charles Davio22?jimmy. Time stamps ? Are? they fact or not?

Tl Mattes?Thanks Mods!!?

Kira?tipsy? bliss!!!!

Seannm Seannm?AGK: you skipped the? first paragraph of the chapter, any reason why?

Mary Green???Thanks? Mods!!

Joey Pero?I think Fenn has said that one of his first memories was hearing his grandmother talking about the Native? Americans chasing the chickens in the barn.

Joey Pero?Haha my? first concert was the Monkees in Buffalo, NY Weird Al was the opening act in 1986

David Charles Davio22?Page 4 ALPHA. page 6 W Omega, age refers? to page 6

jaswinters?Wierd? Al is going to be where i live June 9th Clear Lake, Iowa??

Seannm Seannm?AGK: the first grade chapter almost seems to be a allegory to Forrest’s introduction to social standings, hence the “first? grade”

Joey Pero?AGK I believe? the olive jar description is a hint for boots on the ground. Thoughts?

Inna Yarm.?Hi Shelley &Toby! Great show! you are? creating a special energy around Fenn’s story! Two questions: 1)how often do you see Fenn? 2) will you open a travel business based on Fenn’s story? thank you!

jaswinters?for DNA?

Paul McGinty?AGK A gabion is a cage, cylinder,? or box filled with rocks, concrete, or sometimes sand and soil for use in civil engineering, road building, military applications and landscaping.

Susan Heckenliable?maybe olives in the? jar is describing rocks stacked on or around the treasure

Dan Kirk?ATK: Do you think the clues could? all be metaphors? i.e. Canyon isn’t actually a canyon but something else?

Seannm Seannm?AGK: the two hairs and? DNA mention is from the huff post 9-17-13 article by Margie Goldsmith.

Paul Wood?Atk what do u think? 10000 means

Brian Poeppelman?Sydney Kacir (last name), Pat Morisak,? Edard ???

Eric Schmidt?Paul, you mean 10200??

Laurie James?A Gabion? a cylindrical wire cage filled with stones. sometimes used in dams or dikes.

David Charles Davio22?KiDs See Faces,? in clouds, maps.

Brian Poeppelman?The circles in the school picture aren’t complete circles…? seems strange.

Joey Pero?^_____you’re a thinker Brian!?

Eric Schmidt?BRIAN!! Excellent? find – hadn’t noticed that

Cmonkeyification?AGK: Is email a good way to reach you? guys?

Journeyman?The circles are 2 – 3 lines apiece.? and all but one is open at the bottom. Always bothered me also.

Man In The Barn?Gabion Wall… It’s worth googling and then looking at page 177? in TFTW.

David Charles Davio22?TIME stamps are? Important. Hint.

Timothy Alkire?The stamps are being used as Lat. or Long. Take 1+9+33=43 or 1+9+3+3=16 this is? important…

Bryan Schultz?Fenn? is an emotional man? interesting

Seannm Seannm?AGK:? so Toby you consider yourself a cold cognitive and Shelley more a hot cognitive?

Forrest Lovette?Hey guys,? another Forrest here!

Joey Pero?????

Dan Kirk?[message retracted]

David Charles Davio22?Warm water halts = cool water starts. THATS a big hint.?

David Charles Davio22?Canyon down? = Down in the valley.

Dan Kirk?AGK: Sorry I keep typing “ATK” because I am also a fan of America’s Test Kitchen,? and they sometimes say “ATK”

ZuGaArmy YT?OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG?

Mary Green?@ Timothy Alkire, tried that with time stamps didnt? get anywhere, that said yes thats it the chest corrds

Bryan Schultz?You? could always make the point that the gold coins are new and old. Old gold but newer coins

Timothy Alkire?[message retracted]

Eric Schmidt?AGK: The? only circle that matches Fenn is Kacir

Jimmy Fast?The arrow? is fenn in the first row…circles are his childhood friends

David Charles Davio22?PIE. marbles, coins = clocks time? compass

Bryan Eagle?and brother? circled

Seannm Seannm?AGK: check your email. I sent you the link to the? article. And yes it does speak about DNA and carbon-12 testing.

Journeyman?EDARD? is not circled

Brian Poeppelman?AGK: “John Charles whatever” gets to “John Charles Fremont”. I agree with. How does “Ora Mae” not get to “Ora Mae Washington” – ‘Queen of Tennis’??

Jimmy Fast?Edward? is the first circled kid on the left

Journeyman?Sorry your right?

David Charles Davio22?HINT.Just heavy loads= depression..Water high= current..SO Depression-era currency. RESEARCH.THE? 1933 Double eagle coin. THEE MOST collected coin in the world ! THATS the BOMB.

Bryan Eagle?Ora Mae was Whoopi’s character in “Sister Act”, didnt she roll her own? in that movie?

Laurie James?that’s exactly it? Toby!

B Cross?Great show?

David Dow?Fun show? today.

Joey Pero?You’re the best !?

B Cross?Maybe Pinot next week?

Journeyman?Great? show see ya soon!

Timothy Alkire?Mary, it’s not the TC but it puts you where you will find the Blaze and the TC is when you look quickly down. Don’t look at? your feet look way down because he has a 1,000ft bluff behind him.

Tl Mattes?Good Job Everyone!? Thanks ??

Mary Green?thanks agk? another great show

Road Runners?See ya Saturday?

David Charles Davio22?RIGHT on Much? love

diego kelly?good? show

Eric Schmidt?Thanks? guys

Timothy Alkire?TTOTC IS ALL? ABOUT THE NUMBERS.

Mary Green?@ Timothy Alkire, ill study again?

 

Forrest Fenn’s Treasure – Finders Keepers, or Not? – Live Stream with Q&A

Shelley and Toby discuss the question of whether the finder of Fenn’s treasure will actually own it – or not.

Scholarly papers for download:

Click here to download Kleeberg’s paper on “Treasure Trove Law in the United States.”

Click here to download the Congressional Research Service’s paper on “Federal Land Ownership.”



Live Chat from Today’s Program

A Gypsy’s Kiss​Today’s program starts at 1pm MST.

Joel Lewicki​Good afternoon – welcome to the locus in quo!

Nikolai Strov​I smashed my phone on the ground yesterday.. I won’t be around as much :):

Paul McGinty​Good afternoon

Man In The Barn​Good Afternoon All

James Kruse​Hi guys

An Average Person​hey all

Peter Longan​hi

Jimmy Fast​Hi

Eric Schmidt​Good afternoon

Edward Owen​Hi Guys

Rick Plank​Hello from Cincinnati

Journeyman​Hi Guys

Nikolai Strov​HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!

Jay Ell​top-o-the afternoon ya, boyo!

Aksarben​Hello from Omaha

clay spence​A Big Texas Happy Valentine’s back at you All!

Joey Pero​All men Shelly – I think you’ve found your audience !

Michael koen​Hello from NC

David Dow​Hello

Nikolai Strov​Joey isn’t even 21! 😉

Cindy Guess​Volume is low today

Crow Dudley​AGK.. hello from southern Indiana… You guys are awesome.

Eric Schmidt​Volume is good for me..

Cmonkeyification​Volume low on Shelley only

Aksarben​The person who has title owns it… Forrest has said that in his videos multiple times

Rick Plank​@AGK: I liked your desktop microphones much better.

Sandy Wolf​hello from West Virginia just want to say love your show

Joel Lewicki​for further research: https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/…

Dan Kirk​AGK: If you find the treasure, will it be difficult do do this show and pretend like it wasn’t you who found it?

Bill Gorman​audio was fine now sounds like Toby is in a barrel. Somebody just has a cheep computer with poor sound

RedneckExpress​Toby is loud and clear – Shelly you mic is still low

Nikolai Strov​He was of clear mind when he decided to trove his treasure

Tl Mattes​Somebody is in the office working, unable to turn it up full blast, Bill. Don’t talk bad about my sister!

Road Runners​Wado from the Osage Reservation in Oklahoma.

Nikolai Strov​YES

Steve Gaghagen​hello from snowy Kearney Nebraska

Eric Schmidt​They have new mikes this week..

Aksarben​Possession is 90% of ownership 😄

Joey Pero​Haha 37 but thank you !

Nikolai Strov​Thats my age too 😃

Denise Bagley​Title to the “gold” not the bracelet or the bronze chest.” That may be how he’ll know someone has found it.

RedneckExpress​Title to the gold is Also part of a final clue – IMO

Nikolai Strov​I believe it is someplace that is accessible to the public, you can NOT go looking for treasure in a national PARK.. These rules/laws are different in national FORRESTs

Denise Bagley​Do tell… Redneck

Nikolai Strov​Also, with all this said, this should narrow the search area/s down significantly

Bill Gorman​Forrest service cop told me I could keep it, sheriff said I could keep it, state trooper said I can keep it

Joel Lewicki​Article referenced: https://www.inc-cin.org/assets/pdf/ar…

Eric Schmidt​Bill – you preparing for your rebuttal?

Steve Gaghagen​isn’t national Park land public land set aside for us?

Nikolai Strov​Yes/no

RedneckExpress​DB: I believe Toby is accurate with the transfer of ownership verbiage, and also believe Numerous things in the poem mean 2 or even 3 different things.

Dale Richards​I had a BLM employee tell me that anything left on BLM land becomes subject to their rules of removal aft the 50 year mark.

B Cross​Greetings

Wade Kamps​This is why I rule out the treasure being placed on any reservation, then you also have to deal with another sovereign government

Cindy Guess​lol

RedneckExpress​Seriously doubt it’s on private or tribal land…

Michael koen​BLM land

Wade Kamps​Railroad bridges on reservation are all made of metal, they kept burning the wooden bridges and any freight that fell on tribal land became property of the tribe.

Nikolai Strov​Ladies, I hope your man’s spoil you with infinite sweet nothings, all the flowers in the world and more love, hugs and kisses than the eye can see.. Happy Valentimes! See you all next time ♥🙏

Eric Schmidt​Actually don’t blame the native americans for taking the tribal land so seriously as they have historical been taken advantage of

Steve Gaghagen​I agree Eric it’s one thing we didn’t take back

Road Runners​You’re so right Eric.

Eric Schmidt​I have read quite a bit about this – one of the toughest reads was Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.

Denise Bagley​That was? Or is ? I think that was a mistake , I hope.

john gould​The govt will always make the case. (Yo confiscate). What do they have to lose?

Steve Gaghagen​Little Big Man one of the best movies to show how we really treated the natives

Mary Green​@ Denise Bagley caught that too

David Ursiny​fenn is smart chances are that the box contains one gold coin and a paper ticket saying come get your treasure with his phone number

Michael koen​Fenn has said it’s not buried

Eric Schmidt​Michael – he hasn’t said whether it’s buried or not, “That’s a clue I don’t want to give”

amy smith​Hi! I’m late

fossilman123​hello from Phx

clay spence​I can’t get the live streaming up. any ideas?

Clayton Watson​Perpetually late, but finally here!!

11B 2P Treasure finder​Hi Shelley, hi Toby

Mary Green​@ clay spence clear your cookies

A J Rainville​@clay spence refresh browser?

clay spence​done and done. Thanks. will have to see it later. cell service must be bad here. tks.

B Cross
$5.00
5.00

Franklin Eavers​I would speak with an attorney to see what the best place for me to find it would be.

Eric Schmidt​AGK: United AIrlines magazine is Hemispheres

JanKirb​hey fossilman i’m in phx too

Mary Green​@ clay paste url again

fossilman123​hi jan

clay spence​@ mary will do. tks

Bill Gorman​A road is not a trail

Franklin Eavers​Can law enforcement make you say where it was found? In that case I would have a story.

Steve Gaghagen​AGK you did a video awhile ago with a great Fenn timeline can you refer me to what the title to that video is?

Bill Gorman​Forrest cop told me I can keep it

Clayton Watson​By my calculation you have approx 100 days to adjust your search area, find the chest, and implement “your plan for when you find the treasure” before I get there…plus or minus a few snow days 😉

Kira​Bill, a cop isnt a lawyer, it wont hold up.

Michael koen​It won’t be foumd before June

JanKirb​is the Shelley campaign still on?

Laurie James​a boyfriend with a treasure chest please!

Dale Richards​AGK: so, do you think that “go in peace” means to not be confrontational at all, if approached by law enforcement or a government employee?

AJ 21​Agk What if you go public with the treasure what happen then?

amy smith​I wonder if there are mosquitoes close to the treasure?

Eric Schmidt​remove the space before the first “01”

Dan VonBank​watching in Minnesota

Denise Bagley​In the interview just played Forrest says that you need to report it…was that a National Park? I just missed where he said you’d have to report it. Even though it would still belong to the finder.

Clayton Watson​@AJ21 There exists the potential to make enough money doing publicity gigs and write books that you can keep the chest!

Adam Foddy
£5.00

jaswinters​AGK So just to be clear is there any land out there legal to find the treasure chest without having any complications?

Bill Gorman​Sheriff said I can keep it, he just suggested carrying a gun for the 200 pound cats

Man In The Barn​AGK – When you auction off the chest would you be selling publishing rites to the autobiography and story or will you be keeping that?

Franklin Eavers​He doesn’t say you ‘need’ to, he says that’s the ‘legal’ thing to do. I wouldn’t tell anyone until it’s safely transported.

Adam Foddy​AGK: Has there been any cases of “treasure” being found with the finder losing out due to legal issues?

Joey Pero​Not yet

Steve Gaghagen​we say it carnie

amy smith​I think it’s because your mic is too low to why

Steve Hunt​If you aren’t the (anonymous) finder, would you say it’s not you?

Aksarben​Forrest says he has a feeling it will be found this summer. Do you feel the same or do you think it is to get people off the computer and out to the mountains

JanKirb​AGK Fenn seems so sure of no legality issues that do you think the chest contains a title document to the treasure that passes to the founder?

James Kruse​Might try moving the lapel mic higher up Tody

Peter Longan​should the finder document the location for legal reasons

Miter Broller​AGK. We all know what Clue #1 is, but interested in what Clue #9 is for you? Which line/sentence?

Bill Gorman​They don’t let me in the other Fenn Facebook groups, I know too much.

amy smith​I had one!

Dale Richards​AGK: I had a question above

Denise Bagley​Janno

Michael koen​besides the treasure the only thing I havn’t found is a car wreck in a ditch

Melinda Truscelli​How often do you go out and search? How many have you done so far?

Peter Longan​agk should the finder document the location for legal reasons

Aksarben​Michael were you in Kristin when you saw that wreck

Wade Kamps​Wonder if Forrest wanted to throw his bones on the treasure because Indian bones would trump Forrest Fenns title to his claim? sort of a poke at the govt..

Bill Gorman​I went to the Denver Museum last week, I wasn’t impressed with it.

Michael koen​I have found the rr, the cametary and fire circle

Dale Richards​AGK: some BLM areas have a 5 gallon bucket rule. Would removing a Treasure Trove be allowed with that rule in place?

Bill Gorman​Anubis and the Mammoth outside are the only clues at Denver Nature Useum.

James Kruse​That’s interesting

amy smith​AGK: do you think if there are mosquitoes where he hid the treasure?

Michael koen​yes

Melinda Truscelli​[message retracted]

Bill Gorman​As a camp host at a Forrest service campground, I know all the law enforcement for the area and they all told me I can keep it

James Kruse​Agk: would you open the chest or auction it sealed

JanKirb
$5.00
Happy Valentines …..

Melinda Truscelli​AGK how many searches have you been on and how often do you go?

Bill Gorman​It will be one of his jars with the title to go claim it

Denise Bagley​I love your show! Thank you.

Dale Richards​Amy: I think Forrest said he accidentally left his sardine sandwich in the chest when he dumped his gold in it.

B Cross​AGK: Are you aware of any interview with Forrest conducted this year with author James Frey?

Eric Schmidt​B Cross – you been watching Cowlazars?

Peter Longan​agk when or did fenn say that the chest could be affected by natural desaters.

Laurie James​FYI. Toby, you really need to read House of Rain by Craig Child’s. It’s a wonderful book.

Road Runners​AGK – Off topic somewhat but can you tell me whether or not there are lignite deposits in or adjacent to Cimarron Canyon?

Mary Green​@ B Cross, u beat me to that Q

Denise Bagley​What if you tell people where you found it? Would they have to prove it? I can’t see what I am typing so forgive my mistakes.

Edward Owen​AGK did forrest say once that the Blaze cannot be seen from Google Earth?

Allie Blanche​agk do you have to report the $100,000 in cash that’s sitting in the chest?

David Dow​AGK: could you create an entity owned by a self directed Roth IRA, therefore when you find it, you don’t really own it, but your Roth IRA OWNS IT, then no taxes need to be paid?

JanKirb​AGK can we exclude NM owned public land and city owned pubic land or not?

Denise Bagley​Like couldn’t you tell people and they’d have to prove it? Whom ever finds it could say it was found somewhere whether it wasn’t found.

Bill Gorman​James Frey said my photos were “Amazing”

amy smith​AGK: do you know if FF’s father really took his own life and the details to finding his body?

Mary Green​@ David Dow, im going to ask a account friend about that

Man In The Barn​AGK – If someone else find the trove and you find out the location afterwards would you announce report on it?

Aksarben​Could you avoid legal issue by lending or just donating it to a museum for an extended/permanent time frame

Steve Gaghagen​thanks for the answers Toby and Shelley love the show great as always Happy Valentine’s day great to be back for a live stream

Jimmy Fast​[message retracted]

Franklin Eavers​Same question as Jimmy Fast.

Michael koen​5 gallon bucket rule is for petrified wood

Denise Bagley​AGK, we should have a secret party with all invested in the hunt.

Joey Pero​@AGK thoughts on the colors mentioned in Tea with Olga?

Bill Gorman​The trove is the Drawings, find the Art in Nature if you’re brave because you will be critisized for seeing Rockwell’s in rocks.

Bill Gorman​Frey loves the Mammoth Temples fits his fantasy style.

Dale Richards​ATK: Do you think Forrest or an affiliate of his has staked a claim where he hid the treasure? If so, entirely different set of rules.

David Ursiny​none of that legal stuff will count on federal property because all you will find at the bear canyon campfire is a box with one gold coin and a ticket saying call me to get your treasure, its a legal

Steve Gaghagen​AGK what are the 6 questions you’ve decided on?

Michael koen​there has been a landslide near where I am looking

Sandy Wolf​Michael get a metal detector

David Cline
$5.00
If I ever found the treasure, I would split it with you guys for sure. Your dedication to this project is profound.

Bill Gorman​Fenn was asked if an earthquake would hide it and he acted as it could.

David Ursiny​its a legal thing for somebody getting hurt with a pile of gold forrest lawyers schooled him its hiss show

Eric Schmidt​AGK: he said you couldn’t zoom in enough to see the chest – I don’t think he said whether or not you could see the blaze

Peter Longan​thank you for that answer

Sandy Wolf​if treasure is on private land can you still claim it

Eric Schmidt​I thought that was on the Moby Dickens video..?

Dale Richards​ATK: I think he buried it in sand. He made mention of that in referring to a poem in his book. Do you think that digging in the sand does not create a surface disturbance?

Bill Gorman​AGK found in a state ROW?

Sandy Wolf​that’s why he said take it and leave it’s probably on private land

Joey Pero​ATK = only on Thursdays haha !

Sandy Wolf​how do we no that no one has found it cause of tax purposes he said he hasn’t been back to make sure it’s there

WorldFamous Gamer​is it possible to find out where Forrest’s properties?

Seannm Seannm​AGK & All: the key word may be trove, and the fact that he says “leave my trove for all to seek”. This line in the poem may cover the legalities of ownership. He spent a whole bunch of $ on lawyer

Edward Owen​Thank you eric

Dale Richards​AGK: So then, do you think I should do the right thing and put it back? 😉

Eric Schmidt​No problem! Glad to help

fossilman123​AGK, can you add this question to the list of FF Questions…..FF said he hid the treasure , Is it hidden out of view?

Michael koen​Later all, tks

Clayton Watson​AGK: Bill Gorman is referring to State Right-of-Way. I.e. bar ditches and such

James Kruse​Thanks guys, good show!

WorldFamous Gamer​God bless y’all have fun

Eric Schmidt​Thanks again Toby/Shelley

Laurie James​❤️

Tl Mattes​Good Job everyone! Thanks

Cindy Guess​Thank you, AGK!

Paul Ammons​Thanks💕

Joel Lewicki​TTYL

Paul McGinty​Thank you

Journeyman​thanks

Mary Green​thank you

Jay Ell​AGK: Other than being in his book, is the poem signed by FF to prove the poem is his for certain Forrest Fenn’s?

The Blaze in Fenn’s Treasure Poem

Click here to watch it on agypsyskiss.tv


The Blaze in Forrest Fenn’s Poem – Just the Facts, Ep 003

New “Just the Facts” video released Fridays, 1pm Mountain Time – agypsyskiss.tv


The Blaze in Forrest Fenn’s Treasure Poem – agypsyskiss.tv – Friday, 1pm

Forrest Fenn Book Club, TTotC, (Ch 1) Important Literature – Live Stream w/ Q&A

Join Shelley Carney and Toby Younis on the Forrest Fenn Memoirs Book Club, and drink some fine wine, as we discuss “Important Literature” the first chapter in Forrest Fenn’s first memoir, “The Thrill of the Chase.”



Live Chat

A Gypsy’s Kiss?Stream starts at 1 pm MST. Start questions with AGK and please? stay on topic.

Cmonkeyification?Howdy!?

Eric Schmidt?Greetings? – I am auditing this course

Man In The Barn?Hey Toby and Shelley… Been? waiting for this one. Very important section

Dan VonBank?MY first live stream!!! Dan? from MN

Jimmy Fast?Woo? hoo

Rick Plank?Hello from Cincinnati?

David Dow?Hello?

Eric Schmidt?Does it appear darker than normal to anyone? besides me?

TheStraightMustard?Finally? able to see this live!

Laurie James?Hola?

Jimmy Fast?Audio Clipped?

TheStraightMustard?Hello from New Mexico!?

Mary Green?AGK turn the lights up some?

James Kruse?Howdy all?

Dale Richards?Good Afternoon!?

Man In The Barn?I think Toby pushed something that made? it clip I think

Paul McGinty?Hello from UK?

Dale Richards?I drink Scotch. Wine gives me a headache?

Mary Green?cool? faq pg

Cmonkeyification?Light? good. Volume low.

Eric Schmidt?Audio is now low?

Chuck Denny?AGK – Keep up the good work…sounds fine here – Indian? Trail, NC

Mary Green?AGK? looks good and sound is good

TheStraightMustard?Looks? and sounds great now!

Quest geek?hello from Tennessee?

Tom K?Yes!? Another wine club meeting. ??

John York?AGK; I look forward? to these chats, thanks!

Quest geek?sounds? good to me

Kira?sounded fine?

Eric Schmidt?Sounds good now? – thank you

B Cross?Happy Pre-Friday!?

Laurie James?shelley needs to move right … she blocks the screen. ?????

TheStraightMustard?Ute Park?

Eric Schmidt?Ketchum,? Idaho?

Bryan Eagle?Philmont? owns that area, almost sure.

TheStraightMustard?Philmont owns over 144,000 acres of land up? there.

Bryan Eagle?but specifically midnight mesa and turkey creek / bear canyon areas west of town?

steve remple?AGK That is very? interesting. Two hidden references to the hole in the wall gang.??

Dale Richards?More than two? Steve…

Laurie James?Very low? self esteem.

steve remple?Dale, care to? share?

Dale Richards?It’s coming, I think.? Further in.

Man In The Barn?Toby… The money they make from them sitting drinking coffee it a higher GP then the book sales?

Dale Richards?wait, are? we done with Important Literature?

phil?AGK: Will you include? pg numbers in episode titles plz, THANKS, my life now revolves around AGK

Seannm Seannm?Borderline biddie,? maybe a woman who Forrest may consider as not quite gone to seed yet. Middle aged.

Eric Schmidt?Regarding the new rope statement and the hanging, look? up Willie Kennard.

Aksarben?i would say do not discount the biddie line. He talks? about two biddies again in another chapter. examples of stagnate population growth.

Kira?bells tolls, there is a video on Dal site where Fenn says he does this on purpose just to see responses if? people are paying attention

Steven Merillat??? and ?? and? ?? = good?

Mary Green?@? Steven Merillat…indeed

Dale Richards?There? it is. Robert Redford.

Eric Schmidt?remember Redford also played Gatsby!?

steve remple?I think that’s? interesting

Aksarben?The Outlaw Trail? is a good book with great photos of their trip.

Mary Green?A Farewell to Arms is a novel by Ernest Hemingway?

Mary Green?A Farewell to Arms is a novel by Ernest Hemingway? going to have to read farewell agian

Eric Schmidt?Redford also played “liver? eating” johnson – a mountain man

Virgil Caine is my name?Time seems to come? up quite often with Fenn

Dale Richards?AKG: I went to Lander too.? I also visited Atlantic City and Southpass while there. Good Stuff! Atlantic City has a great pub.

Laurie James?Perhaps the? book was banned in Texas

Dale Richards?IMO: Robert Redford as an actor is less? important than his book.

Mary Green?interesting Fenn is getting books in 2010 at? book store

Virgil Caine is my name?Salingers style is colloquial and it seems? Fenn copied his style and stole parts of CITR

Cmonkeyification?@ Virgil. Agree. e.g. “What do you? think?”

Laurie James?not a boomer 1930?

Virgil Caine is my name?Cmonkeyfication ???

Man In The Barn?Greatest? Generation

Man In The Barn???

Journeyman?Late but? here.

Virgil Caine is my name?but he leaves the? d out of knowlege

Mary Green?but? looked up every word of the poem

Paul McGinty?AGK: Don’t have the book, just listening with? interest

Dale Richards?Fenn? likes mysteries of the past.

Seannm Seannm?AGK: what came first? imagination or knowledge.

Heather Guillen?Hi Toby &? Shelley!

Susan Heckenliable?He does say during an interview because he was a writer he looked up words like “few”?

Virgil Caine is my name?What would that particular issue have? been?

JanKirb?FYI he? uses “asterisk” twice in the book

steve remple?AGK Why does he purposely misspell? Border’s?

Laurie James?AGK. Hole in a? Wall = Hiding Spot?

JanKirb?p 76 asterisk #2?

Dale Richards?AKG: Why have? you not given The Outlaw Trail more attention in your search?

Journeyman?AGK * is a wild card on computers and a joker in a poker hand is a wildcard hand. The first two brown type pages, What do you think??

Dale Richards?AKG: The same Trappers that blazed the Santa Fe and Oregon Trail started the Outlaw Trail, It? was their main route between Taos and the North Rockies where they trapped and had Rendezvous year round.

Laurie James?AGK. did the cattle drives go? through Santa Fe or near Cimmeron?

Eric Schmidt?AGK: there is only one astericks?

Bryan Eagle
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TheStraightMustard?AGK: Can we? ask a question that isn’t in regards to the book especially if we don’t have the ability to usually be here when regular questions are asked? Thanks.

Quest geek?I believe he spent the night at the hidey spot by his juniper fire after hiding the chest? then returning to his car in the morning jmho…..from Tennessee

Virgil Caine is my name?AGK: Really enjoyed the Book? Club, great job!

Aksarben?Ak-sar-ben ( Nebraska spelled backwards, fitting? for a simple cypher)

John York?AGK; I? like the new wall art!

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Steven Merillat?AGK – Im thinking about adding? a partner for the search, my area is 7000 x 200 at a high elevation 8000ft. ,pros and cons please. In the context of his Borders trips.

john gould?AGK? The first paragraph in “ For Whom the Bell Tolls”, — It sounds like it could have been written by Fenn about his? childhood. Laying on the forest floor by a stream, near a dam and a mill. Hmmm…

Bryan Eagle?Cool! Been here since the 70s, we have? the same solution. My ma lives by said lakes, swam there myself!

Bryan Eagle?I lived in Santa Fe? 94-97, worked on the plaza

Dale Richards?ATK: I sometimes feel like Fenn has? us all running around solving and presenting new solutions to historical mysteries of the west.

TheStraightMustard?I am a lady not a man, it’s ok. I get it,? weird name! Thanks for answering! Awesome!

Joey Pero?Hello? everyone !

Dale Richards?ATK: When I see a book on Fenn’s shelf I think it must be there to help? him solve a mystery or to reminisce.

TheStraightMustard?But on the border of Utah and Colorado do the San Juans or? the rockies come that close?

Joey Pero?@AGK Fenn talks about the size – dimension of? the books in Borders, as well as the fact they’re paperbacks. Have you taken a good look at the wonderful construction of his memoirs?

Susan Heckenliable?interesting the Time reference as well. Have you ever looked at an old map of northern nm? Or maybe an old map of the Outlaw? trail would be a good map.

Joey Pero?ATK =? A Tippsies KISS. Hahahha!

Dale Richards?Lol?

Bryan Eagle?ha~!?

TheStraightMustard?I wonder if the moral of the story is about western expansion or how the west was won since all the states? involved have a lot of history revolving around the wild west?

Mary Green?AGK fenn was buying books in jan 2010 hid treasure @ 79 or 80, 2010 turns 80 in aug. was he working on this book in jan 2010??

Paul Ammons?AGK?: FF Describes the weather both times? when he went to Borders (it was raining) For me it seemed odd to mention that?

steve remple?AGK Forrest writes? the word “time” 9X in this story. Do you think this means anything? 3,6,9? Time mag in trash seams so out of place.

Chris Johnson?@Joey The dimensions of the books Fenn gives seem to match the structure of the poem. Six (6) stanzas of four (4)? lines each

David Cline?When is your first trip of the year going? to be?

Steven Merillat?AGK one more? The story of his trips? to Border’s in my opinion is a story of the search > he was alone but had to get help for something while he was there. Then he was embarrassed by someone.

Bryan Eagle?@David Cline they said on Tues sometime in? the late spring this year

Mary Green?AGK? thanks

Susan Heckenliable?I think Time? is an important hint. The title page of the book is missing the printing date, it is in the back of the book instead.

TheStraightMustard?Or monsoon season??

Virgil Caine is my name?@steve remple he drinks Dr Pepper which is 10,2 and 4. Again? a reference to time

Dale Richards?AGK: I’ve been to? Brown’s Park too. It’s unique. I highly recommend a visit to Jarvie Ranch on Utah’s side if you go. And gas up before going in.

Thomas D?AGK interesting as always? thank you

Joey Pero?@AGK what? kind of wine today?

Paul McGinty?AGK: Thank you for your time?

TheStraightMustard?Thanks for a great show! ???

Laurie James?Wineries send wine all the time … ups. fed x …? no law against that.

Journeyman?Thanks? Guys!!

Paul Wood?keep up the good work?

Eric Schmidt?Thank? you!

B Cross?INFORMATIVE SHOW?

Paul Ammons?Darn! I dont drink?? maybe a fly rod next time?? great show thanks!!?

Jacki Naden?Great show? guys thanks

Laurie James??????

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