A Clue in the Denver Museum of Science & History?

56 of the Objects in the Fenn Cache. Cast.


We have, on numerous occasions, been asked where we are planning our next recon. Between January 17, and January 22, we shall be traveling to Denver to visit the Denver Museum of Science and Nature. We believe there is at least a hint, and perhaps even a clue, hidden amongst its exhibits.

We will report on our findings next year.

Shelley Answers Your Questions (Including Live Chat)


Live Stream Chat

Man In The BarnHello ‘\

Kyle Lamberthey!

Jimmy FastHi Shelly

Steve Gaghagenhello all good to be back for a live stream

Jay EllAGK: Did you guys ever make it up to MT?

Chris Bischofits working

A Gypsy’s Kiss​ Here from Palm Beach International Airport.

Jimmy FastToby👍👍

Cindy GuessI can’t hear you well. Although you are soft spoken, If you could speak up that would be awesome.

Eric SchmidtHi Shelley

A Gypsy’s KissYou’re doing great!

Wayne PetersonNuggetBrain Wayne is here

David DowI’m on a bulldozer right now, but I can hear you very well.

Steve GaghagenAGK when will you two go on your next solve?

Tl Mattesyay, we’re all here 😃

Chris BischofAGK – Any thoughts about next location to visit in New Mexico?

A Gypsy’s KissNot until next Spring.

Steve Gaghagenthanks Toby

A Gypsy’s KissChris… Cimarron.

Cindy GuessYou’re hair looks great!

Chris BischofCool. Good choice – I believe

A J Rainville💍!

Cindy GuessYour not you’re

Eric Schmidtthe sound was fine before

Jarod AtchleyHow did you meet Toby? Was it a mutual interest in FF or something else?

Jason HilgersonHi Shelly

A Gypsy’s KissSpanish Colonial Arts Society.

Steve GaghagenAGK Toby is your daughters art specifically the ones for day of the tread for sale and if so where?

Mary Greenagk cool film class

Ron LeakWhy is the FF treasure in the Rocky Mountains and not just in the region of the TTOTC map?

Jason HilgersonShelly, does Forrest respond to emails anymore

Eric SchmidtRon – because that is where FF said it was!

A Gypsy’s KissGo to her website seanwells dot me.

Mary GreenAGK r u going to do a film on your FF TC search

Eric SchmidtJason – yes he does! As long as one is not trying to pry info from him

Steve Gaghagenthanks Shelley

Man In The BarnHey Shelly, I think Toby has said that if you were to stop the show, he might move on to other things as well. How do you feel you motivate him in his productions?

Mary GreenAGK as a film not vlog

A Gypsy’s KissMary. Probably not.

Mary GreenAGK KK

Jason HilgersonWhat’s a good email for you . I’ll forward what I sent Forrest and maybe you two can help.

Jimmy FastLove the weekly vlogs

Jason HilgersonYou will find it interesting.

Eric Schmidtagypsyskiss@gmail.com

Kyle LambertAGK I was wondering if you got the email I sent you a few weeks ago about so

A Gypsy’s KissShe’s the best business partner I’ve ever had

Kyle Lambertabout some imagery from the poem on a map

Wayne Petersonso what do you do if not looking for FF

Jimmy FastAGK do you think aguas caliente is where warm waters halt?

Eric SchmidtAGK: what are your thoughts about the big horn basin

Cindy GuessDo you think there may be a connection between the murder of Rev Tolby in Cimarron and the clues?

A Gypsy’s KissJimmy. No. NM Game and Fish Regs.

A Gypsy’s KissCindy. Yes.

Jarod AtchleyAGK What ever happened to the small treasures you guys were hiding? Wasn’t the last one re hidden by the person that found it? Never heard what happened to that one.

A Gypsy’s KissEric. It’s under 5000ft and not in the Rocky Mountains.

Jason HilgersonA big shout out to the bear on the shelf!!;

 

A Photo’s Difference Between TToTC and OUAW

Fenn’s Fechin Paintings

Before I headed out for my trip to visit my new grand-daughter in Boca Raton, Florida, Shelley and I had time to produce a quick video on the differences between the photo that was used once in Fenn’s first memoir, “The Thrill of the Chase,” and a second time in his third memoir, “Once Upon a While.”

That episode will publish at 1pm MST on Tuesday, December 5, 2017 on https://www.youtube.com/c/agyspsys.

The photos in the album below are from that presentation. Enjoy!

See you again live on December 12!


Postmarks: Once Upon a While | High Resolution | Macro Photography

Here’s the link to our YouTube video covering this topic: https://youtu.be/-hTDD-EMM_U

Download the spreadsheet I mentioned in the video here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zVLsV0Tcksm0tDpp7azzVgsCrFn7K03Y9qZEBC8_u4I/edit?usp=sharing


The Postmarks in Fenn’s “Once Upon a While” | Live Stream with Live Q & A | Includes Text From

 


TEXT FROM LIVE CHAT

A Gypsy’s Kiss​Start your questions to us with AGK:

A Gypsy’s Kiss​😃

Jimmy Fast​Welcome

Rick Plank​Hello from Cincinnati!

Jason Hilgerson​AGk

jaswinters​Hello from Iowa

Bryan Schultz
$10.00

Jimmy Fast​I will

Man In The Barn​I’m in

A Gypsy’s Kiss​Jimmy Fast is today’s mod. Thank you!

Jason Hilgerson​AGk Shelly I checked out your other. Very informative, made me reflect on my own relationship. Good advice👍🏻

Jason Hilgerson​Jas winters I’m from IA as well

Jason Hilgerson​I live up by Decorah

jaswinters​Clear Lake

Pamela Shetron​AGK What are your thoughts about the treasure chest being donated anonymously to the Smithsonian? Do you think the poem is Fenn’s funeral procession?

Cmonkeyification​AGK: What’s with the postmarks in TTOTC? I’ve never seen a similar postmark used anywhere. Why the discrepancy in day of week and actual day?

Jason Hilgerson​It would be kinda cool to hang out with a like mind

B Cross​Good Evening

Man In The Barn​That’s a great image

Cindy Guess​I’m with Shelly on the stamps

jaswinters​AGK think Fenn is telling people who are making the book do certain things special to the book for clues or is just the creators of the book just adding things to make it look like era of the stories?

MR G​AGK: If you had to guess, how old do you think Forrest was when he first discovered the treasure location and what might he have been doing there?

imont80​AGK… greetings from McAllen Tx

Man In The Barn​AGK: I too have spent a lot of time looking at the postmarks. Found nothing… What % of a possibility do you think they may be a red herring?

jaswinters​facebook me

Jason Hilgerson​4sure

B Cross
$10.00

ashley bergstrom
$5.00

Pamela Shetron​Thanks! Do you think there is a good reason why the chest was left unlocked and the key to the chest rest on top?

jaswinters​hilgerson www1idwillhe.wordpressdotcom

Cmonkeyification​AGK: Back to the TTOTC postmarks. Statistically, wouldn’t at least one day name and date line up?

Matt​Nothingburgers are delicious

Wayne Peterson​agk if you put in a museum they insure it and might pay you to display it

Matt​AGK, would applying the Sloane joke perhaps align the dates? Sloane said he was born 1910 vs 1905, something like that from ttotc…

Pamela Shetron​AGK,Thanks! Do you think there is a good reason why the chest was left unlocked and the key to the chest rest on top?

JanKirb​AGK Do you think he was looking for artifacts or a good fishing spot or just a good view when he found his place?

Edward Owen​Great show, Where are you two going next in yoru search?

jaswinters​AGK Toby and Shelly Have you met fenns wife and what does she say about fenn wanting to be buried without her i know my grandma would be mad??

Man In The Barn​AGK: I too have spent a lot of time looking at the postmarks. Found nothing… What % of a possibility do you think they may be a red herring?

Rick Plank​AGK: Do you think the postmark stamps are created by Forrest himself?

JT​Fenn has said the chest was not locked, but the key was inside the chest. He also said he didn’t want to lock it b/c he didn’t want the finder to break the chest in order to open it.

Cmonkeyification​Harvey

Jimmy Fast​[message retracted]

David Whiskey​The chest is worth big money by it self.

JanKirb​[message retracted]

JanKirb​AGK BTW you may run into a park ranger at Mesa Verde by the name of ………….Christy Brown

jaswinters​$25,000

JT​AGK: What are your thoughts on the story about the stolen ball of string? There is mention of the mail man in this story as well. Was this discussed earlier in the show? I was late.

Jimmy Fast​Not the mail man, the post man

JT​my mistake, thanks for the correction

John Wood​[message retracted]

Jimmy Fast​I wondered about the ball of string too

David Whiskey​Thanks guys

Matt​could be a figure of speech, spinning a good yarn

Cindy Guess​Thanks, AGK!!!

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A Hint in Fenn’s OUAW? (The Curious Case of the Unique Postmark)


We have just begun our research on the postmarks printed in Fenn’s 11th book, and 3rd memoir, “Once Upon a While.” The first step in our research was photographing each of the postmarks in the book. While shooting the photos, this particular postmark stood out. We’ll discuss it, and our research into the postmarks in our next vlog: 1pm MST, Tuesday, November 28, 2017. Subscribe today to receive a notice, or open this window at the date and time above: https://www.youtube.com/c/agypsyskiss/live

And, we’ll post the other postmark images immediately upon the conclusion of our show that day.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Shelley & Toby

 

The Gospels According to Forrest Fenn – Live Stream with Q & A – Live Chat Below


Live chat

A Gypsy’s Kiss​Hello! Any chat mod volunteers? Let me know.

A Gypsy’s Kiss​Please start your questions to us with AGK:

ObsidianHoax​Hi, good afternoon

Joel Lewicki​AGK: I can moderate if you need

RedneckExpress​Howdy y’all

ObsidianHoax​I only have 15 min.

Adam Foddy​AGK: Hi guys. I need to rush out now but ill leave a couple of questions for when i watch it back later.

ObsidianHoax​the Address is in the description

Wayne Peterson​hello from Durango Colorado NuggetBrain Wayne Peterson

ObsidianHoax​Lucky Wayne, leaving in the area. fortunate 😉

Joel Lewicki​oh, they’ll be banhammered.

A Gypsy’s Kiss​Joel Lewicki is our mod today

ObsidianHoax​you even have a wrench next to your name

Adam Foddy​AGK: Forrest Fenn has been quoted on Wikipedia saying that should the price of gold rise to the point where the value of the treasure reaches $10 million he’s going to go and fetch it himself! I

Adam Foddy​AGK: is there any truth to this?

ObsidianHoax​it was a joke, since he also said that it would be there in 10,000 years, and he’s old. He’ll be gone before it rises to $10 million dollars

Seannm Seannm​3 weeks and counting, no book yet.

Steve Klein
$10.00
keep up the good work .

Wayne Peterson​AGK as you might know how many of the 9 clues have been figured out

Adam Foddy​AGK: In your recent blog toby stated that there are some hints in the preface of tje new book written by a third party. Does this not mean that this person is aware of where the treasure is hidden??

Seannm Seannm​Third Act?

Steve Klein​nothing personal against Dal but I don’t trust his blog something just not right about it

Richard Hunter​AGK: Forrest recognizes that it may be many years, perhaps decades or longer, before the treasure is found. Forrest knows that Dal’s blog will not have the permanency as a printed book.

Seannm Seannm​@AGK do you see in significance in his omitting the 40th SBand the subject matter of what I assume to be SB 179?

RedneckExpress​Technically, it was Jesus that spoke the parables and the gospel writers just documented them.

Jay Ell​I wonder if FF is watching this……

Spurious Effect​Only if he forgot where he put the treasure.

Jay Ell​Spice chapter??????? What a classic!!!!

welder4hireaj​the word that is key….

Wayne Peterson​what is Dale’s sight hiw do we find it

Joel Lewicki​dalneitzel.com

Wayne Peterson​thanks

Eric Schmidt​39 chapters, interesting number

RedneckExpress​If FF wants to be cremated and then have his ashes scattered over the chest – I volunteer for the job! just sayin…

Seannm Seannm​LOL

RedneckExpress​I disagree, I think he went all out for a “classic” treasure hunt and buried it. He’s slipped on saying it a few times too…

Steve Klein​[message retracted]

RedneckExpress​Even in Moby Dickens.. He starts “I buried the che… I HID the chest..”

Wayne Peterson​I believe hidden but not buried

Steve Klein​I agree with you redneck express

Chris Bischof​This has already been discussed. Its likely for legal reasons FF corrected his words on multiple occasions

welder4hireaj​9. lol

Chris Bischof​AGK – Did you receive a signed copy from Collected Works? Just wondering if there is still a batch of signed books available.

RedneckExpress​AGK: What about possible hints in OUAW from the drawings/images? Your review seemed to focus on clues only from the text. I believe the cover may even have a clue, especially since F discounted it

Bryan Schultz
$10.00

MR G​AGK: Do you think Douglas Preston knows for sure what State the treasure is in?

Seannm Seannm​AGK: do you see this book as his “Third Act”?

Seannm Seannm​And the bank you both for all you do!

MR G​AGK: What was the deal with the story that appeared in the Abq journal a couple years ago about the treasure solve near the Vietnam Memorial in….

Ronald Conley​AGK: Has anyone ever asked if the sun ever shines on the chest?

MR G​.Angel Fire, somebody claimed that the treasure was there and then when they went back it was gone? Do you remember why this story made the Journal?

welder4hireaj​agk… Is there any consensus on what the word that is key may be?

Seannm Seannm​AGK: more of a statement than a question, but do you believe that both Douglas,Shiloh and a host of those closest to Forrest do not search because of fear of finding it and being accused of inside inf

imont80​Montemayor AGK : How do you think FF was planing to go to his final place without someone finding his car and therefore find his place?

Chris Bischof​AGK – I’ve wondered if the State of New Mexico got tipped off somehow (even in the slightest way) by Forrest that the treasure is hidden in the state, when they put together that tourism video.

David Dow​Do you believe the location of the chest is at a lower elevation than from the location of where you find the blaze?

discernment4theSoul​Fenn said to think big when thinking about the clues, plus we are told google maps is a good resource, have you guys considered the continental divide for wwh? If not why?

Chris Kirk​AGK: Will you be disappointed if someone finds the treasure and doesn’t reveal details of it’s location, thus never finding out how the lines of the poem align with real life locales?

Mary Green​#tarry

MR G​AGK: A few years ago Fenn did a “Clue a month” on “The Today Show” I believe. Seems like he only did a few and then it stopped. Do you know why?

Wayne Peterson​AGK Fenn stated people pass by it every day. but nobody sees it

Carl Cox​i think the blaze is a tree, with a big cavity, and a big burnt 4ft long burnt scorched spot, where it was set on fire and put out

Jeremy Milstead​Wayne, he never said that.

Chris Kirk​The new season of Longmire on Netflix, has a subplot involving a fictional version of Fenns treasure.

Ronald Conley​AGK: Since Forrest said that only two people can keep a secret if one is dead, do you think that he might have made an indirect reference to Skippy?

discernment4theSoul​As much as Forrest talks about historical legends, home of molly brown seems like a good candidate, what do you guys think?

Carl Cox​hid it under the home of brown, what if it was , dog poop, and a brown dog lived there lol

Cindy Guess​AGK: Forrest took out the IOU because he had worked out a better way to know when the treasure is discovered. What do you think that could be?

Justin Mead​AGK: Do you believe the early (and possibly continued) mention of a rental car was a ruse? Also, how truly important will aerial photography (Google Earth) be in the final solve?

Seannm Seannm​AGK: what is more important in your interpretation of the first clue: what wwwh is or where wwh is ?

David Dow​During one interview, as Forrest was describing Dal, he said that Dal’s “waters run deep”. What does he mean by waters? Could that relate to warm waters?

welder4hireaj​discerned. my solve used the continental divide for wwwh….I feel it does give a point

Mary Green​agk you could disclose where the TC and how the poem worked in a book fig out clues riddle style would be cool

craig foulds​[message retracted]

Joel Lewicki​AGK: Thanks! Have a great week!

RedneckExpress​Thanks AGK – Great Stuff!!

Sevenblade​AGK: May I ask where the first ever location was when you guys started the search?

Cindy Guess​Thanks! Great Job!

Wayne Peterson​thanks for the show

Rick Plank​AGK: Thank you. I really enjoy your VLOGs.

discernment4theSoul​Welder..I believe it’s the first clue, and it fits my solve well

AK Seventeen dollars per square inch (of YouTube)! Thanks for your perspectives and entertainment!

A Gypsy’s Kiss​@AK Thank you!

A Gypsy’s Kiss​@sevenblade My first BOTG was on the Chama River below El Vado Dam.

A Gypsy’s Kiss​@seannm Our locations are defined in the NM Fishing Regulations.

A Gypsy’s Kiss​@cindyguess the return of the bracelet.

A Gypsy’s Kiss​@Justin Mead We do not believe he rented a car. Google Earth is critical to determining the first two clues.

Wayne Peterson​Fenn stated in one of his she’s ppl pass by it daily but nobody sees it

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How Fenn Answer’s Question – Live Stream with Q & A (Includes Text from Chat)


Text from Live chat

A Gypsy’s Kiss​Hello! Who would like to be our chat admin today?

A Gypsy’s Kiss​Start your questions to us with AGK:

Rick Plank​Hello from Cincinnati.

Sledneck​Surprise show, cool, maybe I am just out of the loop. lol

Justin Posey​Greetings from Austin, TX

cwd.tvtribal1000​hello saw you at book signing:)

Justin Posey​Her last name is “Luce” 😃

B Cross​Good evening!

Chris Bischof​AGK- Weren’t you a little surprised that Preston & Fenn didn’t even mention the ‘Fenn’s car parked at the Denver Museum reference’in the forward? I realize its probably an “unhelpful hint”.

Chris Bischof​AGK – Seems like it was a huge statement to go unaddressed.

Sledneck​hard to talk about a book when you have not seen it…

Justin Posey​AGK: What are your thoughts on Preston indicating there are clues in Forrest’s new book? Forrest’s posture following Preston’s comment seemed to indicate Forrest was uncomfortable with that statement.

David Dow​Greetingd from Nevada City, California.

Michael De​It would have been so much nicer if the questions were submitted ahead of time and reviewed by the people on the stage.

Rick Plank​AGK: I got the feeling that Forrest wanted to go on, but he said that he was not in control here. Did you also get that feeling?

Michael De​AGK I asked last week about another book by Fenn. I was wondering if the book inside the treasure chest might get published after the chest is found?

Justin Posey​AGK: Which question were you planning to ask Forrest at the recent book signing, Toby?

cwd.tvtribal1000​agk… did Fenn store the treasure at his home before he hid it….or gallery?

Chris Bischof​AGK: Sorry off topic a bit. Do you recall an instance in his books or interviews where Forrest talks about Slip & Slide Creek? It’s killing me but cant find a specific reference.

MR G​AGK-Fenn has said that “WWWH” happens at a 1000 places in the rocky mountains. Do you believe that the “WWWH” in the poem is one of these places?…

MR G​Or do you think that his “warm waters halt” is something completely different?” i.e., only one specific place in the entire search area. Thanks.

Rick Plank​AGK: One of his responses at Moby Dickens was “Do you have a plane?” That response has always intrigued me. What are your thoughts?

MR G​AGK-Do you think that Fenn, in years past, flew his plane close to the treasure location and even landed? Thank you.

Michael De​Agk Thank you for your vlogs

JanKirb​AGK could the treasure be on private land that he owns somewhere in the 4 states?

Justin Posey​AGK: Forrest originally had an IOU in the chest as a way to see if it had been found. He has since devised a better scheme. Any thoughts on what the methodology is?

Cindy Guess​Thank you!!!

steve remple​AGK. Hello enjoy your blogs. In the book TTOTC pg128. He writes at age 58 he realizes that he has slept a little over 19 years of his life and 3 of those years were on Monday. Is this a clue???

cwd.tvtribal1000​agk has forest said if the gramar is correct…if Brown is a name meek not a name

Justin Posey​Game & trail cam 😃

Chris Bischof​Justin – I think there is something more in the chest instead of the IOU. He alluded to the fact he discovered a better way.

David Dow​Game cam

Justin Posey​Chris: I agree, and I also agree with Toby in that it is not electronic in nature.

Chris Bischof​I concur. FF doesn’t seem like a techie. Haha.

Bill Gorman​Hey, I caught you two live

Michael De​Maybe there’s a camera in the HOB

Bill Gorman​”Suddenly I felt like a crippled ant in an elephant parade” f

Justin Posey​Thank you, folks!

sharpcf73​Where you find it

Bill Gorman​Michael there are several cameras along the poem’s path

B Cross​Thanks for today’s Stream!

steve remple​thanks gypsy

Bill Gorman​You’re holding me up from doing a 360 drone video of the Fennzone.

cwd.tvtribal1000​agk OK thanks…send me private message if u like

Justin Posey​Shelley: congratulations and best of luck on the new channel!

Michael De​So Bill, your about to find the chest?

Bill Gorman​Men watch Shelley for reasons other than topic.

cwd.tvtribal1000​HI bill I saw you at once upon a while signing

Bill Gorman​Tusk!

cwd.tvtribal1000​u showed me omegas

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